Wednesday, June 14, 2017

Larry's on a tear again


Long-time friend in cyber- and meatspace, bestselling author, and fellow blogger Larry Correia is at it again.  This time he tackles the boss of File770.com, Mike Glyer.

I had some exposure to the vitriol and nastiness of File770 denizens when I called for a boycott of Tor Books over the unconscionable behavior of one of their staff.  Those who frequent it decided to be rude to and about me, even though I'd never darkened their online doorstep and none of them knew me at all.  I was therefore not surprised when they targeted author Jon del Arroz (whom we've met in these pages before) for his not-politically-correct views.  However, they were so rude that they attracted Larry's attention - and he's responded in his usual tactful (NOT!), diplomatic (NEVER!), mild-mannered (HA!) way.

For those of you who aren’t familiar with the seedy underbelly of fandom, File 770 is a garbage gossip column website run by a scumbag named Mike Glyer. His whole shtick is to be a news aggregator for the sci-fi/fantasy business and collect links from people who actually create things for a living. He play acts at being an impartial journalist, but in reality everything he does is slanted to screw over anybody he doesn’t like.

He chums the water for his horde of psychos so they can go about forming internet lynch mobs, boycotts, and black ballings. But then he pretends to be all impartial and above the fray. If you ever want to lose all faith in humanity, read the comments there. His regulars range between basement dwelling goons, creepy weirdo stalkers, and angry rainbow haired social justice warriors.

If you are in any writer’s groups with conservative or libertarian authors in them, then you’ve inevitably heard about this shithole website. We mostly call it Vile 770 or File 666. At one point or another that page has tried to start shit with every author who gets on Glyer’s bad side. Because when you are ever the nail that sticks up, the File 770 crew are the hammer that wants to knock you back down. Luckily, they’re about as effective as a Fisher Price squeaky hammer. So mostly we just mock them.

There's much more at the link.  It's classic Correia gold.  Go read the whole thing.

(By the way, I've never spoken with Mr. Glyer in any way, shape or form, so I'm not going to be rude about him myself:  but I will say that File770 commenters are consistently negative and rude to and about anyone who doesn't toe the progressive, left-wing, social-justice-warrior line.  I therefore suspect that Larry's rant is more on-target than not.)

Peter

11 comments:

Russell Newquist said...

By the way, I've never spoken with Mr. Glyer in any way, shape or form, so I'm not going to be rude about him myself: but I will say that File770 commenters are consistently negative and rude to and about anyone who doesn't toe the progressive, left-wing, social-justice-warrior line.

In the exact same boat myself. Never interacted with Mr. Glyer, but I've been the target of the 770ers. However, I will also add that every organization (no matter how loosely you define the term) reflects those at the top. The type of commenters he attracts gives a strong indication of what kind of person he is.

Anonymous said...

You can learn enough about a person by what flourishes where he sows.

Anonymous said...

Sure Larry's "diplomatic."

In much the same way the Honorverse character Sir Aivars Terekhov - sometime diplomat and serving naval officer - is when faced with thuggery: If sufficiently provoked, Larry will cheerfully nuke you from orbit.

("Why is it that people like you always think you're more ruthless than people like me?" *THOOM!!!* )

;)

--Wes S.

Jon D. said...

Had it really rough with them. I've talked to Mike Glyer personally, one on one, a few times. Tried to talk SF authors we both enjoyed, he has a breadth in the topic for sure, so do I, and thought we'd find common ground. It looked like it was going there, but then team File 770 just doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on the nasty. I really don't understand.

I can't go and torch someone the way Larry did, which I really do appreciate someone stepping up like that in defense, though I just find it's something I can't do and nor do I want to revel in it too much (I am quite a bit though, won't lie, I'm not a saint), but Glyer is anything but innocent or repentant here. It's pretty horrific how his crew treats myself and others. It's abuse and torture.

L. Jagi Lamplighter Wright said...

My personal interactions with Mr. Glyer have all been very pleasant, but I believe that Larry is generally correct about the entire phenomena.

Michael A. Rothman said...

The denizens of 770 are largely the reason why it has acquired the nickname Vile770.

Like I've often said before - if those folks were on fire, I'd not even piss on them to extinguish the flames.

Old NFO said...

Yep, Vile 770 is right... And Glyer is the leader of the band...

David Lang said...

I haven't ever talked with Glyer, but during the height of the SP I followed it for a while, and I learned never to trust the quotes he posted, always click through to the original source. He continually took quotes out of context, in some cases quoting something that the original source was arguing against as if it was the opinion of that source.

And a very large percentage of the commenters there are very much the extremests that ?Larry calls them out to be.

Richard Paolinelli said...

I wrote an abridged version of Larry's post, for the simple-minded denizens of Vile 770: https://scifiscribe.com/2017/06/13/one-last-word/

Chris Nelson said...

I once tried to have a discussion with some of the denizens of Vile 770. These folks live in a self re-enforced fantasy totally divorced from reality. Reminded me of a vicious school girl cliché missing their antipsychotic medication.

Anonymous said...

Semi-amusing to read an article that ends with "...what is left to our nation and our society except mutual hatred, contempt and destruction?", then the next article is about Larry's rhetoric is good and the file770 people's is bad. Larry and others don't like file770; file770 doesn't like Larry. Stay away from each other or fight. There's no reasonable discourse to be had.